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	<title>Comments on: At Goldman, there is such a thing as free lunch&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Michelle Leder&#039;s guide to what&#039;s hiding in SEC filings</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Leder</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.org/perk-city/at-goldman-there-is-such-a-thing-as-free-lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-4733</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Leder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt there&#039;s more important footnotes out there. But like it or not, it&#039;s footnotes like these that tend to draw the most attention -- and, yes, reader comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt there&#8217;s more important footnotes out there. But like it or not, it&#8217;s footnotes like these that tend to draw the most attention &#8212; and, yes, reader comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely, there must be more important footnotes to report on and to respond directly to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely, there must be more important footnotes to report on and to respond directly to.</p>
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		<title>By: interested</title>
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		<dc:creator>interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ken Houghton Says: 

March 12th, 2008 at 8:24 am 

&quot;Providing meals for only a portion of the firmâ€™s staff is illegal&quot;i

I&#039;d be interested in a citation in law showing where it is illegal for a company to provide meals to some and not all of its employees.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ken Houghton Says: </p>
<p>March 12th, 2008 at 8:24 am </p>
<p>&#8220;Providing meals for only a portion of the firmâ€™s staff is illegal&#8221;i</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in a citation in law showing where it is illegal for a company to provide meals to some and not all of its employees.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Leder</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.org/perk-city/at-goldman-there-is-such-a-thing-as-free-lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-4726</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Leder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of interesting (and funny!) thoughts here. I guess the main point I was trying to make is that this was a new disclosure and as footnoted regulars know, those are often the most interesting. 

The actual amount, which Interested calculates as $2,966 based on subtracting everything else, is almost insignificant. Are we really supposed to believe that Goldman wasn&#039;t providing this benefit before to Blankfein and the other NEOs? And if so, why not simply disclose it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of interesting (and funny!) thoughts here. I guess the main point I was trying to make is that this was a new disclosure and as footnoted regulars know, those are often the most interesting. </p>
<p>The actual amount, which Interested calculates as $2,966 based on subtracting everything else, is almost insignificant. Are we really supposed to believe that Goldman wasn&#8217;t providing this benefit before to Blankfein and the other NEOs? And if so, why not simply disclose it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Houghton</title>
		<link>http://www.footnoted.org/perk-city/at-goldman-there-is-such-a-thing-as-free-lunch/comment-page-1/#comment-4725</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Providing meals for only a portion of the firm&#039;s staff is illegal, so GS duly reports  (per the proxy) &quot;the incremental cost [as part] of....the â€œAll Other Compensationâ€ column above.&quot;

Did the recipients pay taxes on that compensation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Providing meals for only a portion of the firm&#8217;s staff is illegal, so GS duly reports  (per the proxy) &#8220;the incremental cost [as part] of&#8230;.the â€œAll Other Compensationâ€ column above.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did the recipients pay taxes on that compensation?</p>
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		<title>By: Heywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how much does it cost the company when he takes a leak? Has anyone done the math? He should be put on a catheter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how much does it cost the company when he takes a leak? Has anyone done the math? He should be put on a catheter!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hackett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The response by &quot;interested&quot; is accurate and well valued from a financial perspective, but unfortunately biased toward one side.  

- EXAMPLE -
Assuming 30 minutes of bathroom breaks per day (5 #1, 1 #2, depending on Blankfein&#039;s regularity) that&#039;s $11k in wasted productivity per day, or $2.5M per year.  Why do you not recommend a $100k/year allowance for adult diapers?

The same amount of time is probably spent showering.  Perhaps a $100k executive locker room staffed by firehose personnel to &quot;hose down&quot; the executive team is in order?

-Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The response by &#8220;interested&#8221; is accurate and well valued from a financial perspective, but unfortunately biased toward one side.  </p>
<p>- EXAMPLE -<br />
Assuming 30 minutes of bathroom breaks per day (5 #1, 1 #2, depending on Blankfein&#8217;s regularity) that&#8217;s $11k in wasted productivity per day, or $2.5M per year.  Why do you not recommend a $100k/year allowance for adult diapers?</p>
<p>The same amount of time is probably spent showering.  Perhaps a $100k executive locker room staffed by firehose personnel to &#8220;hose down&#8221; the executive team is in order?</p>
<p>-Rob</p>
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		<title>By: interested</title>
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		<dc:creator>interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the answer on Blankfein&#039;s comp is closer to 68 million than 54 million. Advantage: WSJ.

As to the lunches, GS maintains a kitchen on the 30th floor of 85 Broad with mutliple dining rooms to facilitate meals with clients and other business purposes.  The 30th floor also is home to the executive suite.  So, the top executives can have the kitchen prepare their breakfast and lunches.

Breakfast is often a bowl of fruit. Lunch is often a sandwich.  Or it can be more fancy, perhaps an item from the menu being offered that day to visiting clients.

Now, if you are paying the CEO 68 million per year, that works out to about 272,000 per day (bassed on 250 working days per year), or 22,667 per hour based on a 12 hour day.

What&#039;s the alternative? The CEO could spend time each day to ride the elevator downstairs to the lobby, then ride the escalator down to the cafeteria in the basement, order food, wait for food to be prepared, stand in line to pay cashier, then repeat the return trek to his desk on the 30th floor.

Let&#039;s budget 10 minutes per day for that round trip.  That&#039;s 2,500 minutes per year, or more than 41 hours, or 3.5 working days per year.

Now, the proxy indicates that Blankfein received $384,157 in other compensation, including $233,053 for car and driver, and $61,246 for financial and benefits counseling. Adding together all the items shown in footnote (e) results in a sum of $381,191, leaving a difference of $2,966 which we can infer is the amount allocated for the in-office meals.  That seems like a completely reasonable expense comapred to the opportunity cost of the CEO&#039;s time treking to and from the the basement cafeteria.

The same math for the CFO Mr. Viniar show about $5,243 left to allocated to meals.  But we want the CFO at his desk. When&#039;s he there, he does things like this:

&lt;i&gt;Late last year, as the markets roared along, David A. Viniar, Goldmanâ€™s chief financial officer, called a â€œmortgage riskâ€ meeting in his meticulous 30th-floor office in Lower Manhattan.

At that point, the holdings of Goldmanâ€™s mortgage desk were down somewhat, but the notoriously nervous Mr. Viniar was worried about bigger problems. After reviewing the full portfolio with other executives, his message was clear: the bank should reduce its stockpile of mortgages and mortgage-related securities and buy expensive insurance as protection against further losses, a person briefed on the meeting said. &lt;/i&gt;

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/business/19goldman.html?_r=1&amp;em&amp;ex=1195621200&amp;en=a3db4f1df6a297ef&amp;ei=5087%0A&amp;oref=slogin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the answer on Blankfein&#8217;s comp is closer to 68 million than 54 million. Advantage: WSJ.</p>
<p>As to the lunches, GS maintains a kitchen on the 30th floor of 85 Broad with mutliple dining rooms to facilitate meals with clients and other business purposes.  The 30th floor also is home to the executive suite.  So, the top executives can have the kitchen prepare their breakfast and lunches.</p>
<p>Breakfast is often a bowl of fruit. Lunch is often a sandwich.  Or it can be more fancy, perhaps an item from the menu being offered that day to visiting clients.</p>
<p>Now, if you are paying the CEO 68 million per year, that works out to about 272,000 per day (bassed on 250 working days per year), or 22,667 per hour based on a 12 hour day.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the alternative? The CEO could spend time each day to ride the elevator downstairs to the lobby, then ride the escalator down to the cafeteria in the basement, order food, wait for food to be prepared, stand in line to pay cashier, then repeat the return trek to his desk on the 30th floor.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s budget 10 minutes per day for that round trip.  That&#8217;s 2,500 minutes per year, or more than 41 hours, or 3.5 working days per year.</p>
<p>Now, the proxy indicates that Blankfein received $384,157 in other compensation, including $233,053 for car and driver, and $61,246 for financial and benefits counseling. Adding together all the items shown in footnote (e) results in a sum of $381,191, leaving a difference of $2,966 which we can infer is the amount allocated for the in-office meals.  That seems like a completely reasonable expense comapred to the opportunity cost of the CEO&#8217;s time treking to and from the the basement cafeteria.</p>
<p>The same math for the CFO Mr. Viniar show about $5,243 left to allocated to meals.  But we want the CFO at his desk. When&#8217;s he there, he does things like this:</p>
<p><i>Late last year, as the markets roared along, David A. Viniar, Goldmanâ€™s chief financial officer, called a â€œmortgage riskâ€ meeting in his meticulous 30th-floor office in Lower Manhattan.</p>
<p>At that point, the holdings of Goldmanâ€™s mortgage desk were down somewhat, but the notoriously nervous Mr. Viniar was worried about bigger problems. After reviewing the full portfolio with other executives, his message was clear: the bank should reduce its stockpile of mortgages and mortgage-related securities and buy expensive insurance as protection against further losses, a person briefed on the meeting said. </i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/business/19goldman.html?_r=1&amp;em&amp;ex=1195621200&amp;en=a3db4f1df6a297ef&amp;ei=5087&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/business/19goldman.html?_r=1&amp;em&amp;ex=1195621200&amp;en=a3db4f1df6a297ef&amp;ei=5087&amp;oref=slogin</a></p>
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