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	<title>Comments on: Freshly baked from the SEC&#8230;</title>
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	<description>Michelle Leder's guide to what's hiding in SEC filings</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Floyd Upperman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd Upperman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cox is a sneaky man.......</description>
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		<title>By: David Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update, Michelle. My two cents' worth:

* I remain skeptical of Cox's goal to serve up an CD&#38;A that is useful for 'ordinary investors' (it reminds me of him trying to spin XBRL as saving average Joe's time). Do individuals really want/need to read CD&#38;A? If we can't get fund managers to read them....

* As I've noted before there are some impossible aspirations here. On fancy words strung together, sometimes these are precise financial terms. Like the Cosi example a couple weeks back: the SEC asked for specifics, and some companies are replying with specific financial metrics - a lack of financial literacy is not our excuse to lament the complexity. Sometimes, complexity is the price of precision.

* Anecdotally, I would suggest in regard to executive bonus plans, two very gradual shifts including (i) discretion plays a more prominent role, and (ii) increased use of bonus pool participation; e.g., exec shares in x% of EVA created. In such a case, plan may not really have targets. So, in some cases, a component of the plan is "knowledgeable insiders sit around a table and talk turkey"...i.e., it can be hard to give the SEC what is seems to want. I believe the key here is NOT disclosure of mechanics but rather disclosure of PAY PROCESS (we don't care about pay levels, we care about process).

But just caveats, more CD&#38;A is better...

David Harper
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update, Michelle. My two cents&#8217; worth:</p>
<p>* I remain skeptical of Cox&#8217;s goal to serve up an CD&amp;A that is useful for &#8216;ordinary investors&#8217; (it reminds me of him trying to spin XBRL as saving average Joe&#8217;s time). Do individuals really want/need to read CD&amp;A? If we can&#8217;t get fund managers to read them&#8230;.</p>
<p>* As I&#8217;ve noted before there are some impossible aspirations here. On fancy words strung together, sometimes these are precise financial terms. Like the Cosi example a couple weeks back: the SEC asked for specifics, and some companies are replying with specific financial metrics - a lack of financial literacy is not our excuse to lament the complexity. Sometimes, complexity is the price of precision.</p>
<p>* Anecdotally, I would suggest in regard to executive bonus plans, two very gradual shifts including (i) discretion plays a more prominent role, and (ii) increased use of bonus pool participation; e.g., exec shares in x% of EVA created. In such a case, plan may not really have targets. So, in some cases, a component of the plan is &#8220;knowledgeable insiders sit around a table and talk turkey&#8221;&#8230;i.e., it can be hard to give the SEC what is seems to want. I believe the key here is NOT disclosure of mechanics but rather disclosure of PAY PROCESS (we don&#8217;t care about pay levels, we care about process).</p>
<p>But just caveats, more CD&amp;A is better&#8230;</p>
<p>David Harper<br />
bionicturtle.com</p>
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